PS (shorter) shorts are back
The PS Shorts go on sale again today, in the same colours as the past two years: khaki, olive and navy. Thank you to all readers for their patience waiting for the restock.
There is only one major change, which is that the shorts are 1.5 inches shorter than the previous iteration. The inside-leg measurement has gone from 10 inches to 8.5.
I made the tweak because I felt the shorter length would be more current, and so achieve the core aim of the shorts: to be classic, moderate and easy to wear. Almost anonymous.
It’s not a big change - shorts these days are trending much shorter, like 6 inches. But I think it means they look average, and everyday. Whereas the old length might now stand out by looking long.
Savile Row tailors always used to say that they never ignored trends, they just moderated them.
So if lapels on mainstream suits went from 5 inches to 2 over the space of 20 years (perhaps, from the 80s to the 2000s) theirs would go from 4 to 3. And most of the time they would be somewhere in the middle, say 3¼ or 3½.
I think the change to the PS shorts is doing something similar.
When we launched them in 2018, I said I was tired of most shorts being extremes. On the high street, everything was tight to the thigh; in classic menswear circles, it was all repro-vintage, with big legs and gurkha tops.
The aim was to be something in between: well-made, but easy for a normal guy to wear. The new design simply renews that aim.
I’m sure some people will say this is a case of overanalysing. But I find the topic interesting, even just academically.
Every year, brands tweak their styles, materials and colours based on trend reports or on what ‘feels right’ given everything else in the market. Forecasters earn a lot of money from predicting these things and telling those brands what to do.
I have no plans to change anything else in the PS range for those reasons. It’s just as important to wear clothes that are distinct - particular styles which express one's personality.
But where the aim of the item is to be distinctly average, it’s something to keep in mind. Tailors generally change their lapel widths because they don’t want the lapel to stand out. The fit can, and certainly the cloth - but they don’t want a statement lapel.
Shorts, for men, are the same. For many guys it’s enough just to be wearing them rather than trousers. And there’s plenty of room to be expressive elsewhere - with printed camp-collar shirts or old-fashioned sandals - if you want to.
Or you can just be well-dressed, with a well-fitting linen shirt and espadrilles. As I try to be.
In the photos here I’ve shown the PS shorts with a few more casual clothes than in the past - to mix together with those other, smarter shoots and demonstrate the versatility.
In the image above, the khaki pair are worn with a simple white T-shirt. I wear collared shirts and polos more, but when I do wear a T-shirt in Summer it tends to be something like this - white, simple and quality (usually a circular knit - here from The Flat Head).
They’re worn with black espadrilles, from Diego’s, which I find surprisingly versatile. You wouldn’t think black would be that useful in a casual shoe, but a reader commented last year that he wears nothing else in the Summer, and he’s right - they go with almost everything.
It helps that a lot of my clothes are darker, colder colours like the dark-brown linen overshirt the outfit is also shown with above. That’s our upcoming collaboration with Luca Avitabile, about more soon.
Next I’ve shown the same outfit with a cotton sweatshirt, from Dunhill.
There's been friendly mockery in the past about showing ‘Summer’ outfits that feature knitwear, but it’s something I regularly find I have with me, if only because you’re often met with air conditioning when you go indoors.
And of course, in the evening there are few things more pleasant than putting on a jumper with shorts, as the sun dips gently below the horizon.
Dunhill don’t do this sweatshirt anymore, which is a shame. It’s styled like a sweat, but uses a very light, fine cotton, which makes the hand wonderful, look a touch smarter, and feel pretty cool.
I’m wearing my old Berkeley cap with that outfit - a gift from a friend years ago - which does well for Summer headwear with casual outfits.
Summer hats aren't easy, unless you’re smart enough to wear a full panama. So I often switch between a baseball cap and a cheap, beaten-up straw hat - which is shown with the linen overshirt above.
Stylish beach homes seem to be full of old hats like this, but it’s not an easy thing to actually buy. I recommend getting something you like the shape of, but can afford to mess up, and then treating it very badly.
Sit on it, even stand on it, cut off any ribbon or edging, and pack it in anyhow with your other clothes. You can reshape it quite easily (use steam if needed) and the ill-treatment is the best thing for making the hat look suitably old and familiar.
The last outfit shows the green shorts with our Madras-check linen.
Apologies to those that wanted this shirt ready-made, rather than bespoke using our cloth. There seemed less point when it was available RTW from some other brands; but now it’s not, as far as I’m aware, we could make it for next year if enough people still want it.
Wearing a shirt with shorts is a good way to retain some elegance in Summer. To avoid the look of shapeless, untucked polo and cargo shorts that often seems to be the default for men over 40.
Not a business shirt, of course, but something in linen or linen/cotton, whether classic white or blue, or a bolder check or awning stripe.
I’m sure most readers will be familiar with the shorts and their basic design, but for those that aren’t, here’s a summary:
- The shorts are 100% cotton
- The green and khaki have belt loops and washed, ‘sport’ finish. The navy has side adjustors, so is smarter, and no washed finish
- They have a coin section inside the right-hand pocket and one rear pocket on the right, fastened with a button
- They are made by Italian factory Rota, who readers will probably be familiar with and make for several other high-end brands
- The make is a good level for ready-to-wear, with great hardware, linings, buttons, and finishing. A machine make, but with a high level of precision
- They are available in four sizes - small, medium, large and extra-large - equivalent to Italian sizes 46, 48, 50 and 52
- They should be washed cool, at 30 degrees, and hung to dry before ironing.
- Shipping is from the UK
- Price (£175) does not not include VAT, as most PS customers live outside the EU. Taxes are added at checkout.
- Available on the PS shop site here
In terms of alterations:
- All the shorts can be taken in considerably at the waist, by 5cm (2 inches) at the most. It helps here that there is only one rear pocket, as large alterations won’t push two pockets oddly together. On the green and khaki shorts, such a reduction in the waist would also require the rear two belt loops to be taken off, and reduced to one, over the back seam.
- The navy can also be taken out in the waist, by at least 3cm (1.25 inches) as there is considerable inlay there and running down the leg. However, the green and khaki cannot be taken out as this would leave lines around the old seam (as they are garment dyed and washed).
- Both shorts can be shortened in length, at least by 5cm (2 inches). The bottom of the leg is obviously smaller than the thigh, but there isn’t much taper at the bottom. At the worst, the leg might need to be narrowed slightly as well. The green and khaki pairs, however, would require the turn-up to be cut off and machined on higher up, as again there are fade lines at the top and bottom of the turn-up.
- The navy short can be lengthened, by at least 2cm (0.75 inches) by either reducing the size of the turn-up or changing the way the turn-up is made (currently it is folded over, making three layers of material. The folded layer can be reduced.) The other two cannot.
Photography: Jamie Ferguson @jkf_man
Below are pictures from previous shoots - demonstrating other ways to wear them. Note, though, that these all have the old, longer length.
These look fantastic; order placed for a khaki pair. As someone in their mid-30s the slightly shorter length is very welcome, and thank you for putting the effort into refining them.
The shorts look great, Simon. Was there a particular reason to go with pleated rather than flat fronts?
However, I think the showstopper from this post is the overshirt from LA. Are you able to share any more details on the size you wear (for the purpose of putting myself down on the waiting list) and the expected pricing?
Best,
Teo
Yes, I’ve always liked pleats on shorts when they’re quite subtle, like here. I think it’s a nice, slightly refined touch, and it genuinely makes them fit more people as well.
For example, the size 48 here is perfect for me on the waist, but would be too tight in the hips and seat without the pleats. If it wasn’t for them I’d have to size up to a 50 and take in the waist.
Sorry Teo, on the overshirt, I’m wearing a Medium, and the price will be around £245
Hello, I love that overshirt. Will it be available via LA or your site? Would love to join waiting list or watch out for it too. Thank you Simon
Hi Oliver,
It will be available on our website, rather than Luca’s, and absolutely there is a decent waiting list already – email [email protected] to be added.
Just sent an email to be added as well. Can you tell when it should be available approximatively?
It should be two weeks’ time
Thank you, have a great weekend
Dear Simon, your comment on pleats, have you changed your views on the utility of pleats in general? I recall your comments a few years back, that seemed to me to suggest that you felt pleated tops were not so different with a flat front.
I think that might have been in regard to bespoke trousers, where the cutter can build in the fullness you need with the cut, or indeed darts?
It’s different with ready-made shorts or trousers.
Glad to see these back, Simon – and good shout on the slight shortening. I missed-out on the Finest Polo (hopefully won’t be the same with the new cream Dartmoor), but if you get new stock, would you wear the shorts with the polo?
Yes I think so. Certainly the navy would work very well, as it’s cleaner and doesn’t have that washed look.
The washed ones would be a little bit more of a stretch, and you might want a smarter short – like the linen ones from Anderson & Sheppard I showed the polo with in that post.
You will not be mocked by me for combining knitwear with shorts! It’s such a classic style and cotton is so practical for summer evenings. I have a pair of black suede loafers so a great suggestion for summer.
Hi Simon, the shorts look great and the detailed explanation of the reasoning behind shortening the length is very interesting, even if I’m slightly regretting not getting a pair of the longer ones now. Just a note for you – the link in your opening paragraph appears to direct to the madras linen fabric entry in the store, not the shorts.
Hi Simon,
Do you happen to know the measurement of the waist flat across? I’m trying to compare them to a pair of Doppiaa shorts I bought in size 46 that are 41cm across. Thanks.
Oh dear. Thank you Jonathan, I’ll fix that now
Hi Simon, I don’t see the measurements so I went ahead and ordered the 46 in both khaki and navy. Hopefully they run similarly to the Doppiaa.
The measurements are on the product page. Worth checking as I don’t know the Dopiaa dimensions
“I’m sure some people will say this is a case of overanalysing. But I find the topic interesting, even just academically”
not at all, the devil is in the detail. (never truly understood what the devil had to do with it but details are vital, without bothering the little things the whole thing is comprimised.
Unfussy design to meet contemporary is fine, but for me a gentleman’s length is kissing the upper of kneecap, anytime, anywhere. Curious to see how the comments go though.
What’s the thigh and hem width for the shorts?
The measurements are on the shop page here Lucas.
That’ll tell you the hem, but actually we don’t have the thigh. I’ll get that now.
So is bottom = hem? Thought it was the bum size…
Ah no, bottom is hem, yes.
Hi Simon – were you able to find the thigh width? On a size 50 in particular please. Would these work well on someone with “athletic”, or just generally large thighs? Thanks
Sorry Peter – I haven’t but it’s probably best if you email the support team instead, sorry. That’s why they’re there, because I often forget about stuff like this!
Whether it would work on more athletic thighs, I don’t know. It depends how athletic. But I’m not sure a thigh measurement will help – the hem is going to be sitting mid-thigh anyway when you sit down, so it’s that size as much as anything that’s important. Compare our hem measurement to one on shorts you already have to get the best idea.
Shorts are difficult for most men to wear well, particularly as we age. Knobby knees, bird legs, overweight etc means that a lot more things can go wrong than right with shorts. Perhaps that’s why the great Tom Ford advises men to never wear shorts in the city and he’s right.
That dark brown linen overshirt looks perfect–very excited to learn more. I also support producing the PS linen madras in RTW. Simon, thanks for making it easier to dress elegantly in warm weather–not always an easy thing!
No problem, and thanks, noted on the madras
Tempted to ask whether the overshirt would look good with smart trousers and an open-neck shirt, but I’ll hold off until the overshirt post is published. (I love how Drakes did the “smart overshirt” look, looked good even with a tie)
I think it would, it’s really nice and clean in that respect – and could even be nice with a tie too. I’d go for a knitted silk myself
Simon, I️ can never quite figure out what to wear with navy shorts or trousers. Maybe a blue buttondown, but with what color shoes? Tan always looks too light compared to the navy shorts. The problem may be that navy bottoms remind me of a uniform I️ had to wear at a summer job long ago – white shirt and navy pants. Thanks.
Light blue, white, grey, chambray, pale yellow, denims, all should be nice shirts with navy.
And go for dark brown shoes – suede or leather
Thanks, Simon.
Out of curiosity, where did you get that hat from? A lot of cheap ones I have found are either very Panama-y in how white they are, or very coarse with lots of holes. Quite a few seem to have very stingy brims or entirely upturned ones too.
It’s an old one from Bates
Could it be that the navy shorts in size Medium is already sold out? That would be sad as I asked a couple of weeks ago to be added to the waiting list but did not receive any news that there is going to be a re-launch, and now I might have missed out again (just one day in). Might there be some orders where these shorts be coming back?
That’s strange, you should have received an alert. But yes, there was a shipment of the navy that was caught in customs and should be here next week. Do check with the support team to make sure you do get a message on that, and I will double check too
Thanks Simon, I have written to the support email to check and hope I will not miss out on the re-stock in a week (fingers-crossed) 🙂 P.s. I have also been on the waiting list for the linen overshirt for a couple of weeks now and am very much looking forward to that launch as well. I know that Luca also has Valerio currently in offer, thus maybe you can give a hint regarding the differences there? (Materials, style etc)?
I think it’s worth holding back a little, particularly as we don’t have all the imagery and want to be as clear as possible, but it’s mostly colours/materials and design points around the pockets.
This is great news Simon.
As a side, due to them being mentioned in this piece, how do your Diego’s compare to other espadrilles you own?
Do like the concept Diego’s promote on their website.
To be honest, the Diego’s aren’t quite as good a quality. No lining insole, and a bit inconsistent in sizing. If Drake’s had these colours I’d go to them
I have a pair of Diego´s where one shoe is a bit larger than the other one, which is frustrating.
The brand Toni Pons have similar espadrilles that have an insole as well as one shoe for your left foot and one for your right foot, contrary to Diego´s
I haven’t heard of Toni Pons, but from what I can see those are more roughly made than Diego’s or Drake’s, that Spanish type of make. There’s a thicker sole and thicker stitch, which really stop espadrilles looking elegant I find.
The styles also look quite gimmicky, with the mixed colours, elastic etc
I find the model called Montgri to be quite similar to the Diego´s Charentaise. It does have that brand tag in the back but I removed it easily.
OK, good to know. You have both and would say the size of the stitching and thickness of the sole are the same?
I would say that the thickness of the sole are the same, but I guess the stitching differs.
Yes that seems fair. Thanks Mikael
As a taller man, regular shorts look like short shorts on me. I hope I can still find some “long shorts” somewhere or else look like a flamingo.
What length do you like them David? These are still longer than a lot on the market, and I am 6’1″
Hi Simon. I feel that 8 inches or so is ideal, leaving a shade under 2″ before my knee. I am 6’8″ and I really feel that shorts only make me look gangly unless they’re at least this long.
Then again I might just be overly sensitive about what I see in the mirror.
Ah, yes I can see that if you’re that tall Matt. It’s hard when you’re that far from the average
I feel you Matt. Being 196cm myself with particular long legs – even for my size – can make it difficult to shop for suitable shorts.
They look perfect! Unfortunately the pandemic have made my clothes smaller (or me a bit fatter. A think that the XL/52 would be too small for me. Hope you could make some XXL/54 for next summer. (Or even more hopefully, that XL/52 will fit me at that time).
A large vote here for having that madras shirt ready made next year please.
+1 on that.
Simon, I’m considering a pair of the PS navy shorts. My waist size is 34-34 1/2 inches so would you recommend medium or large?
The best thing is always to compare the measurements to something you already own Scott, even a pair of trousers if you’re just looking at the waist. Can I suggest you do that?
Will do, thanks.
Hi Simon,
Do these shorts stretch at all in the waist?
Also, can I ask you what size you wear in the Diego espadrilles versus EG shoes? the size conversion on the Diego website confused me a little. thank you!
No, they won’t stretch.
I wear a 43 in the espadrilles, and usually an 8.5 in EG
Simon – what is the thinking on having the ‘turne-up’ cuff. Doesn’t it (kind of) ruin the line, and doesn’t the turned over/ material, folded thrice in one case, make that particular ring around the leg hotter? Would there be a way to remove them without loosing any length?
Thank you for explaining you thinking here.
The turn-up certainly doesn’t add any warmth, no!
The thinking is that, like the pleats, they add a very subtle touch of style and tailoring reference to the shorts. There’s more on the original launch article if you’re interested, here.
Hi Simon,
Regarding the black espadrilles, they do seem to work, rather surprisingly to me.
When it comes to espadrilles, the first two colours that come to my mind are cream and navy for its summer vibes and versatility.
Can you share how and why black seems to work?
I imagine it works with colder and darker colours. In terms of versatility, would black work well with staple wardrobe colours like white, navy and grey?
Yes, I think black works well in an espadrille because the surface is quite matte and almost dusty.
Navy I find is nice, but not in many situations where black wouldn’t work just as well. Only denim or navy wouldn’t be quite as good. And cream is versatile, but gets dirty very quickly.
Yes, I think black works with those colours. With something like white it would be a little more of a look than navy would be, but that’s about it.
Thanks Simon. I’m inclined to give black a try to replace my current navy one.
Yes, I completely relate to the cream getting dirty easily.
Which brand of espadrilles would you say offers the best value, having tried a few like Castaner and Drake’s?
Well, the only style I really like at the moment is the Drake’s / Diego’s one, so that’s what I would buy, on that basis. It’s slimmer and a little finer in the stitching
Hey, count me in on the rtw madras shirt.
what Colours will the LA overshirt be available in? I am hoping for a dark blue, as I think the brown looks to familiar to my old green Drakes.
You’re in luck, it will be a dark navy as well as this brown
Jubii
Hi Simon, I know we’re jumping the gun here but will the dark blue in linen too or in a different material?
Yes, linen also. If it’s the right linen, usually Irish, with good body, then I wouldn’t have anything else for a Summer overshirt
Simon, if you were to have just one overshirt, which of the two colours would you choose?
I recall we had a similar discussion on the Valstarino which I still think applies here. Navy is probably a little smarter, could work better with colder colours. But dark brown might actually be a touch more versatile and less corporate and also go better with blue denim and casual clothing in general?
True, and good point. I think I’d still go for navy here though. I feel that in an overshirt the colour can go more casual more easily.
The only thing that would stop me would be if I had a lot of navy chinos or shorts.
Thanks Simon, it would be really interesting to hear your thoughts on why, in the case of an overshirt, navy is easier to dress down? Is it a function of the alternative being also quite formal since it’s a darker and colder shade of brown?
I am trying to think how each would slot into a capsule wardrobe. In my mind, both dark brown and navy would work well with beige and olive green chinos/shorts and also cream trousers/ecru jeans, but dark brown would also have the added benefit of being suitable with dark denim (a la BLA NW1). Am I missing something?
Hi Teo,
I think it’s the fact that a linen overshirt will wrinkle more, and obviously has no structure, so it’s more casual even in navy, and so easier to dress down.
But no, you’re right on your comparison. The only small thing not included in there is that a navy is smarter and sometimes you might want that.
Already sold out in my size, darn that was fast! Any plans for a restock Simon?
There is a small restock (actually some stock that is coming late) that should be here in about a week. So worth emailing the support team to be on that waiting list
Thanks, will definitely do that!
Just received these and i am extremely happy with them (and the length is perfect for me). Simon, i particularly like how they fit around the waist/thighs; is this something you developed especially for these shorts with Rota, or is this standard for Rota pleated trousers/taken from a particular Rota model? I haven’t worn anything from Rota before, but am going to look into them now.
Thanks!
Thanks John, that’s so nice to hear.
It is a shape we developed ourselves, yes, so it won’t necessarily be the same on any other Rota product. Sorry.
Given all that effort Simon it would be great if they could be released as a full trouser, even if that is sold through Rota directly rather than PS.
In any case, by far the best shorts I have owned, and I would be particularly interested in a smart beige version, should you look at different fabrics in future years.
Thanks again.
OK, thanks a lot John
I have the shorts in the washed green and the washed khaki and I’d definitely buy both colours again if you decided to make a full length trouser version with the same top block.
Good to know, thanks
And in 2022: the PS Magnum PI short! But seriously, I have been looking at the length of shorts worn by normal, unsartorial men (in Vienna) since I read this post (chinos and cropped jeans only, cargo shorts were disqualified) and find they tend to be worn longer this year, often to the top of the knee. I think it is the perfect length, especially when one is sitting down and it has the advantage of showing less hair. On the other hand average men almost always wear their trousers longer than the cognoscenti you write for.
Hi Simon,
I bought two pairs of PS shorts in khaki and green size 50 which I think that’s equivalent for a 34” waist size. The only thing I would change is increasing the seat size by a little as I have a large seat but those double pleats do help.
The design it’s pleasing and I think you made the right call by shortening them ,for my height 185cm,they look good right above my knees.
It’s nice that you create this pieces on PS shop as they do have something unusual I would say but in a beautiful way.
Thank you Michael, and thanks for the feedback
Hi Simon,
In what instances would you have the shorts cuffed and in what instances would you have yours shorts uncuffed? Are there any rules for cuffing or not cuffing shorts?
No, not at all. It’s just a question of fashion and styles you prefer – more than trousers, and much more than tailoring.
When wearing casual, button-up long or short sleeve shirts with shorts (that are hemmed properly above the knee) , I find that the untucked shirt (I cannot fathom tucking my shirt into my shorts) just looks better with a straight bottom hem like that of a camp collar, guayabera, or overshirt…am I crazy to want to get straight, bottom hemmed madras, linen, or seersucker shirts made for the spring/summer? Of course I realize, there are no HARD rules, but just figured I’d ask for opinions, thanks!
Not at all William, I think that’s a good idea. Just think carefully about the length – it will look less unusual the closer you are to a normal shirt length, so don’t maybe go quite as short as a camp collar or guayabera length
These shorts are really nice, my favorite pair to wear. I’m tempted to order another pair of khakis or the green ones. It’s a slightly dressier short than a sporty one and there is no give which is what I expected. I think they’re perfectly fine in an office environment for areas where it’s hot and casual. Great shorts to wear in the Bay Area pretty much year round 🙂
I did buy some cheaper Bennetons if I need to go for a hike or do some yard work otherwise I’m wearing more athletic soccer/basketball shorts.
Hope you keep these available for a long while. I definitely want to buy again when I wear this pair out. Excellent job for making these.
Cheers Rafael, and yes we definitely plan to.
hi simon, I usually wear shorts on the weekends living in a humid country and I notice I only always wear 2 colour of short (khaki and navy). I tried green shorts in the past but never got around to wearing them much as I always struggled with what footwear to wear with them and hence removed them from my closet. I’m now trying to experiment with a third colour and have am rather intrigued with the olive (Bryceland’s Gurkha Shorts HBT Olive– Bryceland’s & Co. (brycelandsco.com) and black (Bryceland’s Gurkha Shorts Black– Bryceland’s & Co. (brycelandsco.com)) shorts from bryceland.
I’m wondering which you feel may be more versatile and with either what colour of footwear you would wear with them assuming the usual white/blue/navy polos/shirts up top?
Hey Shem,
I think the olive would be the more usual probably, but I’m not sure why you’re struggling with footwear. I feel like almost anything would go with green shorts, from white trainers or cream canvas shoes, to tan leather or suede loafers or boat shoes, black as well, and dark brown.
What was it you found you didn’t like?
Hi simon i guess you could default to white trainers for green shorts but i dont have/like them as its a very youthful look.
I tend to like shoes thst match either the top or bottom. So if navy top and green bottom blue shoes. But there’s nothing for white top and geeem bottlm
Thanks Shem. I’m not sure about matching shoes to top and bottom – I can’t think of another area of menswear where that would be the norm. Why not tan shoes, like an Alden LHS loafer? That looks amazing with white on top and green on the bottom.
Hi simon i have quite thin legs and quite a muscular top body. I live in a rather humid country where shorts are pretty much a must on weekends out. I find shorts a rather tricky thing to wesr though say with an untucked polo shirt up top. It needs to be just the right amount of slim to avoid the silhouette being thrown off. Ie too slim and the top looks way bigger than the bottom. Too wide and it looks incongruous with the top. Do you have anu experience with shorts which walk tbat fine line? I beliece your ps shorts are slightly too slim for me
Hey Shem,
Well it sounds like your logic is kind of what I went through in designing the shorts – and that’s why I went with this width. But that narrow optimum range will vary with different people. I guess you could try to get a wider pair and narrow them to the width you want?
By the way, to avoid looking too casual, try a long sleeved linen shirt or polo on top, with shorts on the bottom. It elevates everything a tiny bit
Hey simon im wondering if you have ever come across or tried any somewhat more refined drawstring shorts. I think they can have the potential to look louche but quite polished to if the details are right (quality linen, not too short or slim, higher in thr rise) and if paired well (nice long sleeve polo or linen shirt tucked out, espadrilles or suede moccasins)
I haven’t I’m afraid, no
Hi simon i dont have any olive shorts and am looking to add a pair.i am deciding between this by bryceland https://www.brycelandsco.com/products/brycelandsgurkhashortsolivehbt) and a pair by a japanese company (https://tangentclothing.com/products/tan03?variant=39652399775940). The forner is more olive while the latter is green. Can i check if one is likely more useful/versatile than the other in terms of colour. I somehow feel the olive is more muted and hence more versatible?
I think they’d both be very versatile, but perhaps different in what they’d go with – the brycelands perhaps better with more casual things, the olive green with smarter
Hello Simon. I was looking at these as an option for a summer hat. I don’t know much about the brand or quality but looks basic and simple to wear with my chambray shirts / Japanese t-shirts and jeans. Something to throw on for summers. Please let me know your thoughts? Thank you Simon.
Yes, nothing wrong with that (I can see the link below now). Only risk is it could look a little smart, but there’s no easy option there in the summer, I struggle to find something I like that isn’t a baseball cap
Hello Simon. I bought these https://www.cabourn.com/en-in/products/mechanics-cap-ripstop-black-navy. Similar to baseball caps but a different style maybe. I’m enjoying wearing it and I settled on the navy colour as opposed to the Tan as I think navy suits me more, is versatile and will go with everything else in my wardrobe. Please let me know your thoughts?
https://youtu.be/unSvx1efTg8
Oops… forgot to copy the link above. Here’s the link – https://hatstore.co.in/straw/gedeon-raffia-natural-56-mayser
Simon, for personal reasons I need to wear shorts at a 10” inseam. It seems that a tucked long sleeve (with sleeves pushed up) seems to balance out these longer shorts okay. But what are your thoughts on tucking in a short sleeve polo? I’m also shorter – if that’s a factor so most polos are too long to wear untucked.
I think that can be a nice look Benn, but it is unusual for how most people wear polo shirts today, so it will look smarter and will be harder with the polo than a shirt. Try it and see how you think it looks. You might want a polo that is fairly roomy
Is that because most people wear short sleeve polos untucked? Is the roominess to give some visual contrast, as with a long sleeve shirt?
Yes and yes
As a Cal (University of California at Berkeley) graduate, I wholeheartedly approve of your baseball cap :.)
Hi simon im wondering goe how easy is it to wear black casual loafers like this (https://www.paraboot.com/en/men/loafer/corauxmarine-noire-lis-noir) with shorts? Do you think it necessitates something black up top?
Not necessarily something black, but something that goes well with black – a dark grey, a dark olive, brown etc
Hello Simon,
Will the shorts be restocked? I am certainly planning to buy a pair.
Kind regards,
Markus
Yes Markus, we’re just waiting for delivery
Oh, great. I have put myself on the waiting list.
For some reason, the waiting list does not seem to work with me (I do not get reminders).
But as an avid watcher of your website, I have now ordered the khaki and the green shorts and looking very much forward to receiving them. The PS orders I did so far (two oxford shirts and in total 6 t-shirts) were all fabulous.
Thank you Markus. I presume you’ve checked that they’re not dropping into spam?
Yes, that seems to have been the issue. Thanks
Speaking of shorts… you have waist and bottom circumference… but what about hips?
We don’t normally include that (thigh is usually the next requested) but I can find it for a particular size if you would like?
No rush! I probably wont manage to grab a pair this year! But for 2 biggest sizes would be nice!
What about brown tote? Wasnt it supposed to be here since march?
Yes we’re still waiting on that unfortunately
Hi Simon – do your shorts have a button or zip fly? Thanks
Zip
Received my Khaki shorts the other day. Gave them a try out today and absolutely love them! Will get a lot of use out of them this coming summer.
Have you thought about making the shorts in a different material in the future? Would love a Navy Linen pair with the same styling and double pleats!
Amazing, thanks Daniel. We haven’t, but good to have the vote!
Hi Simon, can I ask if you still wear Diego’s espadrilles and, if so, if you’re still a size 43 (I’ve seen comments about inconsistencies with sizing)? Inspired by these pages, I love black canvas ones, and want to get a brand other than Castaner. Diego’s don’t ship to the UK (I think) but I’m in France for a couple of weeks and am considering getting a couple of pairs (herringbone and their standard ones – are they the same basic shape?). Thanks in advance.
Hey,
I do wear them and I’m still a 43, though you’re right, the sizing is a bit unpredictable. I think QC like that is one of the things that people often don’t appreciate from getting from a tiny operation rather than a brand.
They did ship to the UK for me though, a couple of years ago. I found the herringbone and standard to be the same shape, but the herringbone stretches more, and can size a little bigger