Olive-green corduroy suit – from Ettore de Cesare
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You know when you think you’re not part of a trend, and then see everyone wearing the same thing? As a clothing snob that likes to think he’s different to everyone else, it’s very annoying.
I had admired Michael Hill’s green-corduroy suit - and more importantly perhaps, the way he wore it - for several years.
So 18 months ago, while in Naples seeing Ettore de Cesare, I asked him to make me one.
I had been extremely impressed by the first jacket Ettore made for me (a navy hopsack) but a couple of the style things weren’t right, most obviously the length.
My fault, probably, but in the interests of this site I do like to see what a tailor will do as their default style, before trying to change it too much.
Then as soon as I received the suit, two months ago, I began to see green corduroy everywhere.
Trunk with De Bonne Facture has pieces in it; Drake’s with Capalbio has a collab jacket in it. It doesn’t help that corduroy itself is having a bit of a fashion moment, and this dark green is one of the three or four colours you’d make tailoring in.
Never mind. I was confident I hadn’t opted for cord out of a desire to be fashionable.
After all, I’d admired Mike’s for years, and the honey-coloured cord suits I have from Pirozzi in Naples and Anderson & Sheppard have been consistently worn and loved.
In fact that A&S one is six-years-old now - and the subject of one of my favourite photos from Pitti back in 2013, with Luca Rubinacci, eating a dripping, nut-encrusted ice cream.
I have also found corduroy to be very versatile in that time - as the best example of what I called a ‘three-way’ suit.
Such a suit, which can be worn as a separate jacket, separate trousers or all together, usually works best in casual materials, and cord is the best.
This green can certainly work in that regard. Indeed, I’ve already set aside some more to make a second pair of trousers.
The fit from Ettore was very good again. Unpadded shoulders that nonetheless sit very cleanly all the way along their length.
Nice suppression through the waist, with just a little extra room for corduroy (given it has no natural stretch). And the jacket 3cm longer than my first one.
The only thing I might change is having a slightly wider sleeve.
I’ve never quite understood why guys think a skinny sleeve looks more flattering or manly than a large one. It’s not going to make you look thin if you’re fat, or muscly if you’re skinny.
The slimness with my sleeve is marginal, however, and it does have the happy but unintended effect of adding extra wrinkles to the elbows.
This is what you want with corduroy. It looks best as it ages.
The cloth is 501281 from Scabal, 380g or 13.5oz in weight.
That’s relatively heavy for cord, but it doesn’t feel heavy at all. Certainly fine for everything but high summer in England.
The colour was the crucial thing though - that deep, muted olive-green. I looked through lots of other bunches trying to find tit in the right wale and without stretch.
The only other candidate I found was Dark Olive 304 from the T1 bunch at Brisbane Moss. But I marginally preferred to the colour of the Scabal.
I’ll wear this cord suit mostly with other matte, casual materials.
So suede shoes, knitted ties, button-down shirts. The refined geography teacher - elevated by the cut of the suit, the waist of the shoe and so on.
Here it is worn with my button-down shirt in the Lighter Denim fabric, a knitted-wool tie from Hermes that I like for its slightly unusual knit pattern, and a burnt-orange silk handkerchief from Ralph Lauren.
A grey tie here is quiet, and makes a nice supporting partner for stronger colours, like that orange. A navy tie looks great too, but is stronger and doesn't provide the same support.
The burgundy socks from Bresciani I also find are a nice compliment to the green, although overall perhaps there is then a little too much colour going on.
Maybe green socks would have been better, unless I lost the handkerchief.
The suit bag is from Rubinacci and the umbrella Michel Heurtault.
The shoes are from Philippe Atienza in Paris - his new bespoke-made ready-to-wear line.
Given I don’t go to Paris often, this was a nice way to try Philippe’s shoes, and the fit is very good apart from a little too much fullness across the vamp.
I like the elongated, round-toed last. It has a definite French pointiness to it, but less pronounced than Berluti or Corthay.
The brass aglets on the end of the laces are made by Philippe himself, in a vintage machine he has in the atelier. More on that collection of machinery here.
Photography: Jamie Ferguson
A very nice colour .
On the subject of colour how long does it take you to pick a colour (how long flicking thru the books ) and what sort of method do you follow ?
I pretty much always have in mind the kind of thing I want, from seeing it somewhere else, on someone else, or from considering useful things to add to the wardrobe. It would then take either 5 minutes, or more like 20 if I’m stuck between two choices. If the latter, I’ll often go away and do something else (eg pick other aspects of the suit) before coming back to the cloth.
what do you think of dark brown as a colour from brisbane moss for a corduroy suit?
curious to see why you picked olive over dark brown?
which is more versatile?
Brown is nice too – I just find a dark, olive green like this is better at bridging casual and formal, city and country. Most browns will look more country to me, unless very dark
Any other colours you would recommend for corduroy, aside from olive-green, mustard, and brown?
I like dark greys (over, for example, navy)
A few comments;
Really good look overall, and especially the length which seems to suit you so much better than many of the jackets you feature. I don’t hold with the view of “this is how they make them in X or Y”. It’s either the right length for your body or it isn’t. This one is.
I’m surprised by your comment that corduroy doesn’t have much stretch; its got far more than worsted wool or cotton.
Could we have an idea of the price please?
Thanks
Thanks.
Cotton as a fibre doesn’t have any natural stretch, where wool does. You can add some stretch in the construction, but this is minimal with corduroy so it is similar to other cottons – hence why a lot of cords have a little elastane in them.
Apologies on price – it was €2500
– is it worth having a bespoke suit made of corduroy as it is not meant to be that hard wearing and it is not a material tailors can play much with (such as heavy ironing, stretching parts of the suits,…), is it?
– a nice piece though, the sleeve head seems roped, which I like for a casual suit (rather sharp casual) but did not expect from a Neapolitan tailor.
Very true. Bespoke will still always be better than MTM, but the difference is smaller with a cloth that cannot be manipulated in the same way, or drape as well.
Narrow sleeves are very popular right now, following the narrow everything trend. But they cause so many fit issues yet cannot be rectified on a completed suit. Is there an opportunity during the first fitting to make the sleeves wider?
Yes, there will be some inlay in there to make use of
I commissioned a green cord suit back in 2013 (I submitted it for the hunstman dinner, Simon), reading the opening paragraph was like you were live typing my thoughts, Simon. Oh dear! The secret is out.
I suppose it’s reassuring to see you write a post about a look one considers a personal favourite!
Hi Simon,
This is a lovely suit! As to the fabric, I presume you have seen the Hardy Minnis needlecord too. Why weren’t you interested in that fabric for this suit? A little bit eavier, perhaps?
John
I wanted something that was clearly a cord, not a needlecord which has such small wales.
Simon – you mention that the jacket can be worn separate. What color and material of trousers would you pair this jacket with?
Mostly cottons or wool flannels
The shoulders seem to have quite a bit of roping for what is meant to be a casual suit. Looks good but wondering what your thinking was on that style point?
Good point Dan. I actually would have preferred them a little more natural – something I will ask Ettore about perhaps even changing. That will be particularly useful when wearing the jacket as a separate
Great suit in fantastic colour! I own a three piece corduroy suit in navy, but the green is more flamboyant! I have already asked my Bangkok tailor if she is able to get that cloth…
The quarters seem very closed. While it nicely echoes the shape of the pockets, isn’t it too formal a choice vs the rest of the cut and the casual function of this suit? A moderate X shape would have been nice.
They are a little, but not as much as an English jacket. I don’t think it makes much difference to the formality – compared to other things like the sleevehead or shoulder padding
Dear Simon,
Excellent experiment which is beautiful! Your sense of color is superb.
Regarding the trend – don’t you think you yourself are responsible for the trend? You focus energy and it is picked up.
What don’t you like about cuffless corduroy suit trousers here?
Since you suggested corduroy as l cloth for my worn-out RTL N&L covert coat pocket lining, I’ve been thinking how I can order a small amount somewhere to give my Swiss seamstress. Obviously a corduroy suit worn by a careful guy like you if it has at least half or full lining would be silk or viscose, correct?
I don’t think I can claim to have started the trend Peter, no…
On cuffs, I just tend to prefer them these days on casual trousers.
And yes, it is fully lined
Interesting you went with fully lined, as I understand that half-lined is your default. Why did you want full lining here?
I increasingly have jackets fully lined when there’s any chance the texture of the material might cause it to catch on a shirt or knitwear.
The novelty of a different, often self-lined jacket has given way to small practicalities
Thanks. And sorry, I was confused–I thought your fully lined comment was still about your trousers, but the question was clearly towards your jacket. It makes much more sense you’d want this jacket fully lined.
Hi Simon,
On the cuffs point, would you ever wear these trousers with anything but a smart pair of shoes – your CP sneakers for example. I have bought some cords and would like wear them with both shoes and sneakers, but the concern is that if I have them altered with a cuff, that it will look odd with sneakers. Thanks
Simon
If anything I would have thought this corduroy, which is fairly fine, would work better with cuffs to pair with casual shoes.
Still, I wouldn’t wear it with trainers, no. I’d want something heavier and not as fine
Is there any house styles, or particular tailors, you could supply who would be happy (and competent) to produce an unpadded shoulder with a roped sleeve head?
Ettore, the tailor here, does entirely unpadded shoulders.
Any UK based tailors in particular you can think of? Unpadded or very soft shoulder with roped sleeeve heads.
Not really – perhaps Thom Sweeney, but I’d go with one of the visiting Italians
When first seeing the suit, I thought it a mistake. But it grew on me and works in the right environment. I agree the sleeves are a bit slim.
Love the way a dark cord reflects light. With the strong chest and shoulders in this jacket, the fabric also makes for a very substantial looking ensemble. Really good.
Salut Simon,
I’ve notice that with all (?) of your corduroy clothing you go for needle cord over wider wale.
Could you tell us a little about hat preference? Is it due to wide wale’s association with country sports?
At the other end of the spectrum, needle cord seems to come close to velour, at least in my mind.
Cheers
Hi
This isn’t really needlecord, it’s bigger than that. It’s a pretty classic size and subtle as a result, I think. I’d really only have needlecord on a shirting, otherwise you’re right it can look more like a velour/velvet
A remark following on from what you said here: “The burgundy socks from Bresciani I also find are a nice compliment to the green, although overall perhaps there is then a little too much colour going on. ”
Since the entire outfit is smart casual, I wonder why you still bother about the colours in this case, which happen to not clash with one another.
John
You mean why am I bothered that there’s perhaps still a little too much colour? It’s a small point and a personal style one I think – I just prefer to be particularly subtle in my combinations
Nice suit. Love the colour. The only thing I’d change are the patch pockets. The line on the outside of the jacket makes them look like they’ve somehow been embossed on the exterior ?
I have my single breasted corduroy suits made by A&S and would thoroughly recommend them as an alternative to the Italians.
My most recent commission was a mustard in a heavier whale. Initially I had reservations but now it is nicely worn in, I love it. The jacket looks great with jeans too.
Thanks Jason.
I have a cord suit from A&S too that I love, though I find the cut too smart for jeans
You seem to have left England ,Mr. Cromptom? Regarding tailoring. From this I understand that the Italian artisans are way ahead of the English tailors?
Nope, just as international as ever.
And the answer to that question is a long one, involving several different aspects of a suit. On average, the English are still more professional, produce a higher quality of finishing, and are arguably better at producing a sharp business suit. But not a soft, casual jacket or suit.
Perhaps this is potential material for an in depth post about the topic? This is very very interesting. Is it a cultural thing?
Perhaps, yes. It is something that is covered in some way in almost every tailoring review we ever do. But perhaps a summary would be helpful.
Hi Simon,
While posting my two previous comments, I have forgotten to ask you why you haven’t been interested in a type of cord made up of coton and elastane blend, which is supposedly to be more comfortable.
And if I remember, your previous cord outfits weren’t of the blend kind either.
John
No. If I can help it I prefer not to have anything else in with the cotton, because it doesn’t hang as well. But elastane can be useful in the trousers to stop them bagging. The ideal might be a jacket in 100% cotton or even cotton and a tiny bit of cashmere, and trousers in cotton with a tiny bit of elastane
Hi Simon
I’ve got a coulple of suits and several pairs of trousers made from the Dugdale White Rose bunch, a corduroy with a small amount of elastene.
They are very soft but have kept their shape really well, despite being at least 5 years old.. Am not sure though if the fabric is still available.
Happy new year.
Thanks Nick, very useful
Hi Simon,
I love the shoes but I don’t quite follow when you say “bespoke-made ready-to-wear.”
Will you do a coverage on the pair? Also how much are they?
Thanks
Phil
Hi Phil,
There’s more detail in my recent piece on Philippe here. They’re ready-made shoes, but made with the same craftsmanship as bespoke.
Slightly off topic but suit related. I was wondering whether you have a specialist insurance provider you utilise for insuring your clothing. Or do you simply add them to your home insurance as a special listing?
Just a special listing. Good question
Special listing?…. the replacement value of all PS commissions must be upwards of £150k…PS must be known to Lloyd’s by now!
Yeah I know. Still, not that much for guys out there that own a few watches
Your PS guides are very useful. Further to this, as an aid to understanding the various cuts and silhouettes could a compilation based on style, not per house, be assembled?
Thank you.
So you mean a grouping of the different houses into respective styles?
This kit is easily among my favourites of what you’ve had made.
The colour is gorgeous, the roping works, you appear very comfortable (and smart!) in the ensemble.
I am a little jealous!
😉
Thanks Emanuel
Yes: so, from a readers perspective, if a reader was looking for a particular look, cut or style yet unsure where to go a guide that groups by style, supported by information about the providing houses, would be useful.
Ok, thanks. I think that could be achieved by grouping our respective breakdowns on tailors. Cheers
Is the jacket canvassed? Does corduroy even need to be?
Yes, and yes if you want it to have a tailored, suit-like shape (which you may not)
Simon, thank you for the response. I am planning to commision a grey corduroy suit (wide wales) and was thinking of getting a double breasted jacket. Would you recommend getting it canvassed or leave it unstructured?
Canvassed probably, but it really depends on what look you want. A canvassed jacket will look smarter and sharper. I’d suggest a single breasted though. It will be less bulky and you’ll get more use out of it
Corduroy does seem to having its moment but, as you say, it’s a great choice for what you call a “three-way suit”.
Which other cloths and colours would you say work best for that purpose? I’d guess a mid-grey flannel suit for winter and lighter linen for summer would be a good starting point. Any others?
Personally I don’t think flannel works – it rarely makes an effective separate jacket. So it’s mostly cottons and tweeds
How useful do you find the derby? I’ve been considering adding a Mod 543 or Mod 106 from Saint Crispin as something else (compared to a split toe) to be a worn as a ‘casual’ shoe that could potential smarten up denim too.
Very useful. Derbys also fit my foot better. Bit sharp and dark for denim though
Many thanks. I was thinking about choosing a material and color similar to what you have on your G&G Crompton loafers. Was hoping that tweak would make them a bit more denim friendly. I currently do not rotate loafers into my wear and have been debating adding them for awhile now.
How versatile is a navy cord sportscoat? What odd trousers would youwear that with?
Navy would go with lots of things, cottons, flannels etc. But personally I think cord is the wrong material for it. Better in almost any wool
This tailor does exceptional work. Exceptional. Very satisfying for a tailor to see.
Simon, how does he cut the corduroy, nap down or nap up ? I can learn a lot from a tailor like this.
Frank
Nap running up, so the colour looks deeper and less shiny
As it does. Thank You Simon
Is the suit jacket from Ettore cut similarly tight compared to your Caliendo and Solito jackets or still tighter (especially regarding sleeve width and waist suppression)?
How is the jacket lenght compared to the other two?
Can Ettore also do a neapolitan natural shoulder? Roped shoulders seem to be his default.
I’d say it’s similar to the others. Perhaps a tiny bit tighter, but it’s tiny.
Shorter than Caliendo, around the same as Solito.
Yes, he can do a natural shoulder as well
Hi Simon,
Seems like ettore cuts his lapels with a little bit of belly?
You said you were impressed by his work. How is ettores quality compared to other good tailors from naples like ciardi, caliendo, panico or zizolfi?
Could ettore be the best value for money in naples?
No, the lapels are straight.
His fitting is good – I wouldn’t say the finishing is quite on the level of those others, except Zizolfi. Though with all Neapolitans, finishing is not a big priority
Does this affect the lifetime of a suit? Are suits with better finishing more durable?
It varies a lot. On some things, yes (such as cutting inbreast pockets into the facing, not the lining), but on others no (most decorative stitching)
Is it possible to tell on what Neapolitans are saving?
For me it always seemed that Neapolitans make more visible decorative stitching than Savile Row.
Sometimes there’s more edge stitching, yes. But a lot of the other work is looser and less consistent. Or the edge stitching on the English is just smaller and more subtle (and one row, not two)
I’m asking because quite a few people told me that they had issues with loose buttons and seams that had come apart by neapolitan jackets (Solito).
Do you had any issues with your commissions from Ettore? Are there any Neapolitans where you had no quality issues so far? Caliendo? Ciardi? Rubinacci? Dalcuore?
Ettore, Caliendo and Ciardi, no issues like that
I assume it is to heavy for a 4 season suit. Is it a 3 season suit or more for the colder months?
No, certainly three season
Hello permanentstylelondon. Hope this meets you well. My name is Ayo and I live in Houston. Wanted to know if it’s safe to wear corduroy pants in the summer. I have two corduroy pants from kiton and brioni and they are extremely light cotton. They are almost see-through pants when they are put up-close to the eyes. The kiton is white and brioni is light brown. Thanks
Hi Ayo,
Most cords will be too hot in summer, but if your cloth is lightweight as it is, then it is probably designed for warm weather and will be fine.
Were you just concerned about the trousers being too hot, or something else?
Thanks
Thank you Simon for your response. Considering the widespread believe that corduroy are to be worn during the colder months, I was just wondering if the pants that I have could be worn during the warmer months (if there are corduroy that could be worn in the warmer months). The wale count on my pants are very high and you might not know that I’m wearing corduroy pants until you get very close to me. Thank you.
They certainly can be, yes Ayo. Perhaps a tiny bit unusual, but nothing wrong with that
Simon, please advise me for your corduroy suits did you use 10 wave, 12 wave corduroy or was it 16 wave needlecord fabric? Regards
It was 12 wale I think
Dear Simon,
I have been reading the comments and answers eagerly here as keen to commission my own corduroy 2 piece suit for the autumn winter.
However, I’m struggling to really understand the intricacies of fabric choices and my own needs in the corduroy world.. needlecord/mid wale, wide wale etc… I have not fully picked up on their formality levels so curious as to your insights into the subtleties of the cord I choose. Are there any other points on the fabric I should be aware of? Perhaps how they drape, or what may suit a softer suit better etc? Is one better for separates perhaps?
My plan was something casual and for want of a better term “drakes-esque”. Not knockabout in the sense of say their games suits, but equally not so formal that it would appear to be business like .
Very best.
There isn’t a big difference in formality, no, but if you want something that everyday and wearable, I’d avoid extremes: both needlecord and the wide wales.
As to other elements, the big one is stretch, which I would avoid. Have the suit or trousers cut a little looser if you need to, but avoid stretch.
And no, different types are necessarily better for suits or jackets.
Simon,
If only having an odd trouser done in 8-10 wale cords, would you still avoid stretch? You had indicated that a small amount of stretch could help prevent bagging at the knees – but not sure how it would affect drape/appearance.
Now looking at Brisbane Moss – Dark Olive and perhaps Grey for trousers for cooler seasons. Brisbane offers a 2% elastane in their 8 wale 460G.
Their 100% cotton 8 wale in 550G & 470G, plus a 10 wale in 355G weight.
Given your experience with cord trousers – please advise most versatile fabric?
Best,
Robert
I’d still go with pure cotton. Just don’t have them cut too slim. Probably the 10 wale 355g
I really love this suit. I’m looking to get a corduroy suit made up for myself later this year – do you have suggestions as to where to find the cloth? I’m particularly thinking about a charcoal grey, maybe 8 wale. Thank you!
Brisbane Moss is the first place to look. Then the cord collections of the bigger merchants, like Scabal and Holland & Sherry
I love this suit and have been wondering how you find corduroy works as a material for Neapolitan-style odd jackets.
Given the general trend towards more relaxed and informal dressing, I’m considering a tweed or cord jacket for using with chinos/jeans
Not sure if olive/brown/grey corduroy would work, and what some interesting pitfalls or issues might be (and where the greater pattern available with tweed/wool is more helpful)
Would be great to hear any examples of how you use these as separates, or conversely any issues and where/why corduroy might not work this way.
I think cord is great in this way, and particularly good in a Neapolitan cut.
I would go with olive first, as I think it is casual but not old fashioned. Grey can be hard to wear, and brown can look a bit old. Tan/beige is also nice, but stands out a little more.
I think the texture of cord means you don’t need a pattern, like a herringbone wool perhaps.
I wear this green jacket on its own with jeans, with beige chinos, with grey flannels. It’s great with them all.
Thanks Simon, following some other comments here – would be great to see examples of how this looks for you with jeans, the beige chinos and flannels. Like your “what office are you?” and capsule posts! If so then perhaps this might be a more adaptable commission to follow a navy jacket? (Rather than going for a brown tweed as bespoke commission number 2…)
That would be, true
Hi Simon, do you think this suit would have worked in a dark grey corduroy? If so, do you think the jacket could also be worn separately (with denim or dark-brown chinos/flannels for example…)
I’m wondering if that might be a very versatile garment, usable in the day if dressed down with boots/ open-neck shirt… or for eveningwear with dark/rich knits
Dark-grey corduroy might be great as a suit, but I don’t think it would be the most versatile as a jacket. If you want to wear it with denim, then I think you want more of a mid-grey, but even then you’ll be safer with a brown, green or camel colour
Great – maybe an urban/dark brown…
yes exactly
Hi Simon, I am considering commissioning a corduroy jacket like yours but could you suggest whether I should choose full-canvassed or half-canvassed construction for the corduroy jacket? as it’s my first corduroy commission, I am not sure which would look nicer with the cloth.
Many thanks,
Jack
I would never use a half canvas, Jack.
Or do you mean half lining?
I meant the half canvas. As I remember, you said some casual material such as cotton could look good with the half canvas. I thought maybe corduroy could work.
I see. I meant that it matters a little less whether there is a full canvas, if you’re using a casual material like corduroy. But I’d still always want a full canvas if there was the option.
Hi Simon, I am not sure if you have tried or owned Drake’s games corduroy blazer, but if so, do you think the jacket could be useful as it’s warm enough for winter? I have attached a link for your reference below.
https://www.drakes.com/collections/blazers/products/brown-cotton-corduroy-games-blazer-mk-i-1
Many thanks,
Jack
I’m actually working on a full piece on that Jack. Coming soon…
Okay, I will be looking forward to it.
Hi Simon,
Firstly, thank you for your enthusiasm in producing the Permanent Style newsletter, which I always read with great interest.
I am in the process of commissioning a dark olive corduroy suit but am unsure about the exact cloth to use.
The Scabal fabric you used is apparently no longer in production and my tailor has suggested a Huddersfield fabric from the Eskdale bunch in dark olive (reference 9287).
I am unsure about two aspects of this – it is described as ‘heavyweight 465gm’ and ‘needlecord’.
As a swatch, it doesn’t feel heavy, but do you think that, as a made-up suit, it will be? Also, you suggested staying away from needlecord, however I have physically counted the ridges and there are 12 per inch, so is this perhaps just a matter of interpretation and would you consider 12 wale to be suitable?
Possibly a safer bet would be to go for the Brisbane Moss fabric you mentioned, as that is also12 wale, although quite a bit lighter at 315gm?
One further question if I may, did you go for side adjusters or belt loops on the trousers?
I’ve never had anything bespoke in corduroy before, so any advice would be gratefully received.
Best regards
Ronnie
Hey Ronnie,
There is an article coming on Wednesday next week on these aspects of corduroy. Could you see if that answers your issues, and leave a comment there if it does not?
I went for side adjustors, though today I might go with belt loops, for reasons discussed here.
Hi Simon. Do you know how this Scabal fabric compares to heavyweight Brisbane Moss fabrics, such as GS20/304 https://www.brisbanemoss.co.uk/product/gs20/dark-olive or 3101XS/304 https://www.brisbanemoss.co.uk/product/3101x/dk-olive? I am deciding between these two for trousers, and not sure which one is better. It seems from the pictures that 304 in GS20 bunch is much darker and more muted than in 3101XS. Being darker is good, but it shouldn’t be that dark that it looses the vibrancy of olive color and looks almost black from afar. What do you think?
I don’t think there’s that risk Kirill – I’d go for the darker colour
Hi Simon,
What color are the shoes? A dark brown? Many thanks.
Yes, a very dark brown
Hi Simon,
How many fittings did you do with him on this suit?
Thank you,
Antoine
Hi Antoine,
Two fittings, though it would have been three if it were my first commission