A Pitti diary: The experience, the brands, the parties
Pitti is a long trade show: four full days, when most are usually three. As a result, by Friday everyone is exhausted, with selling, talking, and late dinners.
Although it does depend on why you’re there. Most people fall into one of three groups:
- Exhibitors, who have to be there are 8:30am every morning on the stand, and so aren’t always out late;
- Those meeting them, such as buyers, photographers and journalists, who don’t have to get up quite as early, but still have to work all day;
- And tourists and hangers on, who are largely there to attend the parties and take pictures of themselves. They can do whatever they like.
One of the helpful things about this Pitti for me was that I was staying with three guys in the middle group: photographer Jamie Ferguson, journalist Aleks Cvetkovic, and PR Jon Holt.
We were all up and out in the morning, but would be back in the late afternoon to write or edit, and then out to the same parties in the evening.
For me, work means seeing brands and artisans, which I’m covering for Permanent Style or other freelance work.
So there will probably be four or five exhibitors that I’ve known for a while but haven’t written about – with whom I make appointments to meet, learn their story, see their product, and cover in some depth.
This time two highlights were Rifugio and Orazio Luciano.
Both are probably names that readers will know. Rifugio is a leather-jackets manufacturer and Orazio a tailor, both based in Naples. Both are also sold around the world.
Things that particularly impressed me were Rifugio’s range of leathers, including incredibly soft baby goatskin, perforated calfskin, and deerskin that is treated to allow it to be unlined (most deer is too thick and fibrous to make an unlined jacket).
And at Orazio I started the process of having a jacket made, in order to construct a review.
Even at the first meeting, though, it was interesting to see the exclusive fabrics Orazio has – which of course is one thing a brand often has over bespoke (pale-grey cotton shown above).
Scattered around these appointments are catch ups with makers I know well, but want to know what they’re offering for this season next year.
(I normally only cover these on Instagram – so follow @permanentstylelondon posts and stories there to see them all.)
At Drake’s, there was a new line of knitted T-shirts (above) – which feels natural for where they are now, but is still a completely new category.
Begg were doing more with artists, which makes sense when you have such a blank canvas as a scarf to work with. And makes new collections easier when you already offer almost every colour imaginable.
The Workers Club had shirts made in India using local print techniques (above), which looked very cool. I also learnt that ikat is a rope-dying process rather than a design.
Chapal, meanwhile, are doing biker jackets in their typical thick sheepskin – which is a nice combination of thick leather that will wear in well, but without the stiffness of horsehide.
And Craftsman Clothing had more pieces in indigo (below), including bandanas, chore jackets and shawl-collar pyjama-like jackets.
I always stop by Seraphin, the Parisian leather-jackets maker, just because I can’t see anything in London.
The piece I loved best from Henri this time was a hand-dyed leather bomber that looked like watercolour (below). A bit showy, but such a lovely texture and colour combination.
It was also nice to catch up with Thomas Brunschwig, who is now working and designing with Ducal shoes in Italy, after a career that has taken in Corthay, Gaziano & Girling and Stefano Bemer.
Ducal don't do all their own making anymore - they design, cut and finish in-house, while using an external workshop for the stitching - and some of their designs are a bit loud for me. But I liked their Blake-stitched Belgian loafers and white grain-leather oxfords/lazymen (below).
In recent years I’ve aimed to spend one afternoon wandering around the whole show, deliberately avoiding places and brands I know best.
This is both to gain a general awareness of where the market is going, and to try and remain as open-minded as possible.
Testing your own style and preferences is what keeps them strong.
Nigel Cabourn is always interesting in that regard, as a modern workwear brand working at high quality.
I also saw the full ranges of a few of the brands carried by Trunk and No Man Walks Alone that I rarely cover: Monitaly, Barbarulo, De Bonne Facture and so on.
And I stumbled across Meindl (above), the German deerskin specialist that makes traditional hunting leathers, lederhosen shorts and a huge volume of hiking boots. Apparently they’re the largest leather manufacturer in western Europe.
I knew the name from Connolly, who carry a couple of Meindl leather jackets and trousers. I’m still not sure I’d ever wear any of it, but the feel of the deerskin is amazing, as is the dark, bark-like colour that comes from hand-dying. You really have to feel it in person to appreciate it.
There were many more. Troubadour’s hyper-technical bags; high tops at Paolo Scafora; the lovely shrunken leather at Acate (below). Visiting Pitti is terrible as a consumer, but as a journalist it’s amazing.
Then of course there are the dinners and the parties. Particularly enjoyable when you can avoid talking about menswear after eight hours of nothing else.
This year there was a dinner on the Tuesday hosted by Scandinavian Man – a fashion magazine founded by ex-Plaza editor Konrad Olsson, and which made a big deal recently of taking no display advertising.
Matt Hranek hosted everybody on Wednesday alongside Fox Brothers, showing the new edition of his magazine, Wm Brown. It’s the second time he and Douglas have done it, and it’s becoming the best party of the week.
And on the Thursday, there was a bike ride organised by Colnago bikes, Pissei cycling clothing, The Rake, Fox Brothers, Stefano Bemer and Sartoria Vestrucci.
A group of us got to ride on some new Colnagos, in Fox/Rake/Vestrucci/Bemer branded kit, and finish in the Florence velodrome for a party.
There’s nothing nicer than getting out of the city, and getting some exercise, after several days walking round a baking city in tailoring.
Pitti is a long show, but there are definitely perks.
Photography: Permanent Style, except top two images, @littlefatyaa
More on those two outfits in separate posts. Below: new Drake's jackets
Has the ‘hangers-on’ camp shrunk in recent years? Perhaps I’m just paying less attention to it, but it seems there’s less of the ‘Pitti Peacock’ syndrome flying about on social media these days.
Yes, you’re right, there are fewer peacocks. And the ones that are left – in their bright red jackets and silly hats – look more ridiculous.
But there has been an increase in influencers, coming just to get their photo taken rather than see brands, often bringing their own photographer to shoot them walking in. They dress better than the peacocks, but they still spend most of their time hanging around outside.
And there has been an increase in tourists: guys just coming to experience the fair and hang out. Nothing wrong with that, but again not necessarily engaging with the brands in the way a journalist or buyer would.
Interesting – I’m not sure what’s worse, to be honest. The peacocks might have looked ridiculous, but I feel influencers have become a particularly insidious feature of our current media landscape. Hopefully the tourists are experiencing more of Florence than the Pitti wall.
Insidious is a good word.
‘Influencer’ has become such a pejorative term that I’m genuinely surprised when someone introduces themselves as one. It implies building influence for its own sake, and selling it to anyone that will pay.
You couldn’t have summed it up better. Warhol foresaw it all.
Interesting to read how ‘hectic’ life as a blogger is .
On that note might I take this opportunity to ask how life as changed for you as a blogger ?
One of main reasons for asking is that there are many trying to be ‘rich overnight’ and being encouraged by those who have ‘made it’ .
I know some of your back story (10 years working and blogging before you took it on full time) but I think it would be useful to get some real perspective from a more sober , distinguished gent (rather then the hyped t shirt wearing Gary Veynarchuk ).
P.S. Given the enormous amount of information out there yours is the only blog I look forward to . And that alone says a lot.
Thanks Robin, that’s a nice idea. I’ll work on something.
I do feel that one of the main reasons Permanent Style has done well for so long is that it has never tried to get rich overnight.
My attitude is that we’re more like a family-owned tailor than a private equity-fuelled start-up brand: we aim for sustainability, not for profit. I want to do this for as long as I can, rather than make the maximum amount of money in the shortest possible period.
I’ve even set up a small Board of people with that specific target in mind. Perhaps it would be nice to communicate that more to readers.
And thanks very much on the PS. I do find it interesting how there are fewer websites today, but perhaps more good ones. Only the really good have survived – with the access to information being a key benefit.
With your permission, may I vent on two Pitti-related subjects please?
1. There seems to be a sort of sartorial machismo involved in dressing very formally (dark double breasted suits, neck tie, socks) in near 40 degree heat. Even allowing for the cooling effects of high twist wools and gauzy linen shirts some of the crowd (not all) just don’t look comfortable to me and, as I’ve learned all too slowly, this is the cornerstone to looking elegant. Then again I start sweating once the mercury crosses 20 degrees so maybe it’s just me that’s uncomfortable and I need to get over it. I’m not advocating Bermuda shorts and a T but something that is in harmony with the weather rather than a look you’ve been planning on wearing to Pitti for the last six months irrespective of rain or shine.
2. If I see another influencer fondling a negroni…[self-censored]
Simon, you looked smashing as always! The linen mandarin-style jacket from Prologue is magnificent.
Thanks. I think you’re right on the first point. I wore my Gieves linen suit on the Wednesday with a tie, but it was gone by the end of the day. Dressing in that heat and remaining elegant requires an open neck and sockless ankles, for me.
Interesting you mention some of the new brands at Pitti .
Some of the brands / people I have learnt about / used since reading PS …….
Incotex
Boglioli
Caruso
The Gigi
Drakes
Trunk Clothiers
Graham Brown
Prologue
Simone Abbarchi
Luca Avertable
Sunspel
Given the price points of the above who else should I now entertain ?
Hmm. I guess that’s a big question, that depends on your style a lot as well as budget? Most of these are bespoke too, who wouldn’t be showing
Can we get a review of the bike please
I didn’t really ride it enough to say much, but I do know it was way our of my price range…
From the picture of you holding the bike it must be quite light.
Nah, I’m just extremely strong.
Tell us more about Acate bags please. I’ve never heard of this maker.
They’re based in Japan, but make in Italy. A very nice quality of product. Not hand sewn, but the absolute top level of leathers, inking and other finishing. The shrunken leathers are my favourite – not just printed, as many such leathers are.
The style is quite dressy, and will be seen as quite feminine by some. But in muted colours I think they make a great dressed-up bag.
Meindl are, and have been for many years, well known as a manufacturer of excellent alpine/trekking/hiking boots. Indeed there are few that rival or are better due to the suppleness of the leather.
Interesting you are having a jacket made by Orazio. Is it bespoke or MTM? I thought about Orazio, but felt the price for MTM was too much compared to other true bespoke offerings. Could you advise the cost? Looking forward to the review.
It’s MTM – interested to try it as something for someone that wants decent fit and handwork, but doesn’t necessarily care about the top level of fit or doesn’t want to do the whole fittings process. Also, has the advantage of custom fabrics.
Price varies with retailer. Armoury is $2750 for a jacket like mine, so not cheap.
And time. Take measurements and you’ll get your jacket in 6 weeks. With travels and so forth my bespoke jackets take up to one or even 1,5 year for a suit. Jean-Manuel-Moreau in Paris is actually quite cheaper. I payed EUR 1890 for a Jacket.
Thanks, very helpful.
Yes, time was what I meant by the whole fittings process really.
For me, JMM is not an option as I find it is hard to obtain an appointment with him and I do not get notified when he comes to the States where I live. I cannot just jump on a place to NYC with a one day notice he is visiting.
Speaking as one of those sartorial tourists, hangers-on if you like, I come to Pitti for two reasons. First and foremost, its a chance to meet up with people who have become good friends. We have a shared interest–menswear, and by coming to Florence I think we all experience, for a couple of days, conversations that we might not have the chance to have “back in the world”. Second, although I realize I may not engage with brands the way a buyer does, or even a journalist, I do appreciate the opportunity to talk to, and learn more about, brands I either use, admire, or would like to know more about. I had good conversations this year with people from Begg, Drake’s, Foster & Sons, Edward Green, Albert Thurston, Ettinger, Budd, Borsalino, Craftsman (I was one of their first customers and it was good to finally meet them) and quite a few more. In no instance did I get the impression that anyone was other than very happy to talk to me about what they do.
As I’m not a buyer or a vendor, Pitti can only be a social event for me. I don’t apologize for that whatsoever. One particular highlight was a conversation with Simon Crompton. I’m making plans to go back in January and next June, too. I’m not taking anything away from anyone else by being there and I shall continue to attend.
I see your point, but I also see Simon’s. I’d feel the same if people just showed up at my job to hang out. Did it occur to you that Simon was working and possibly wasn’t in the mood, was busy, tired and didn’t really want to chat with “fans” and spoke with you out of politeness? Maybe you did take something of value from others – their time. I don’t know….it’s tricky, but you have to imagine how you’d feel about being accosted constantly by well-meaning readers – I am sure asking for photos, etc. while you were dead tired and trying to work. Simon, I suppose you’re being forced to endure the unwanted and quite public life of a celebrity.
Thanks Jackson, but actually it’s really nice meeting people like Andy. It can be an issue for brands when people take their time away from clients they’re meeting, but I know Andy and others are fully aware of that.
Hi Jackson! You’re quite right. I actually saw Simon several times actually at Pitti (meaning inside the show), but each time he was busy and I didn’t not intrude. One time, he was bust being photographed by Jamie Ferguson and I really, really wanted to go find out what they were doing, but I refrained. I only spoke to Simon in person at one of the evening events, where I figure conversation is largely the point.
As for the people working the stands, I am sensitive to the fact that they are there to conduct business. Some stands, like Drake’s, were extremely busy when I went by, others, like Ettinger, were not. So, if I have a question, or questions, I’ll ask. I also identify myself as a blogger (or even as a “sartorial tourist”). No one was anything other than seemingly delighted to chat. But I am (or at least I try to be) mindful of people’s time.
Interesting comments Mr Poupart, I can’t imagine that anyone who knows your positive interest and love of menswear would think you ‘out of place’ at this event. Any supplier too busy to speak to you I’m sure would politely let you know. If this were a real problem, surely the Pitti show organisers would restrict ticket supply to ‘sartorial tourists’?
They are not the most responsive of organisers. People have complained for years about the WiFi and air con, to little avail
Fair enough, Andy. You were clearly being thoughtful and sensitive to others. I am not sure everyone came with the same kind of consideration.
Hi Andy. It was really lovely talking to you too – and you are both very aware of how Pitti works as well as being politeness itself. It was great meeting Peter too.
If there is an issue with people coming to Pitti just to experience it, I think it’s only when they are not aware of these things. One brand even told me that a customer was incensed when he was told he couldn’t buy something from the stand.
Hopefully posts like this will help in that regard.
Thank you, Simon. It’s always a pleasure chatting with you! I can imagine if you come to Pitti thinking it’s a retail event then you’ll be sorely disappointed. I do ask, if there’s something I especially like, when the item might become available. For example, Edward Green had some interesting new colors for the unlined Dover on display. Those are, I think, for SS20.
See you in January!
Given how the sun is usually smiling on Firenze, I’ve wondered if the odd waistcoat is a handy companion for Pitti.
Come to think of it, I haven’t seen you outfitted that way in your forays to warmer countries. Has the waistcoat fallen out of favor with you? (Also, weather permitting, would you ever go sockless or wear invisible socks with an odd waistcoat over a shirt and trousers?)
I think if the style could work it would be very practical, yes.
But no, I rarely wear an odd waistcoat. I have a couple, in brown tweed and in straw herringbone, but they are hard things to combine well. Even when I used to be more of a fan of them (eg logical waistcoat theory) it was largely waistcoat and trousers in the same suit cloth – so waistcoat as suit jacket substitute.
If it could work, then yes I’d have no problem having no visible socks
Point taken on the difficulty of matching up waistcoats. I guess it’s hard for the odd waistcoat to escape part of its history: being an odd color or material, yet still being very much a dependent component of ensembles such as a morning coat or a stroller. It struggles when tried as something independent of another layer on top.
Dear Simon,
Could you please explain what the “real” purpose of Pitti is? Is this the place where the stockists decide what products to buy? If so, how come does Trunk and Drake, stockists by themselves, have a stand?
Apart of the showing place of the famous peacocks, I have never fully grasped the raison d’être of Pitti.
Thank you for a great blog!
Sure.
Pitti Uomo is a trade fair. It is where buyers come to see brands and manufacturers and place orders for the coming season. So a brand like Begg scarves shows all the things they are proposing, or have designed, and then buyers from Trunk, Matches, Bergdorf Goodman and others say which ones they want. These are then made, delivered a few months down the line, and sold by those buyers in their stores. So many things you see at Pitti will never be made or sold.
There are many similar trade fairs around the world, but Pitti Uomo is probably the most international. It is the only place a lot of buyers come to from both the US and Japan, for example.
However.
These days, the lines between manufacturer, brand and buyer are increasingly blurred. So Drake’s used to be at Pitti when it was just a manufacturer and designer. It did not have its own brand. It just took orders from others that wanted its ties or scarves to sell. Today, it is still a manufacturer, but it also sells as its own brand to other stores, and it has its own stores as well. It has all three roles.
Trunk does not have a stand. It is simply a buyer. But even there, it also has its own branded clothing now, so it also meets manufacturers, to discuss things that will be sold under the ‘Trunk’ name.
And it’s increasingly common for all manufacturers to have their own e-commerce, even if they don’t have their own shops. So most are now selling products themselves as well as selling to other stores.
One last caveat. These days, a lot of brands just show at Pitti for the PR, the attention and the opportunity to show things to buyers. Orders are not necessarily written at the fair. Some such as Drake’s, Rota, Bresciani etc will still write orders, but many will not. Sometimes those orders are made afterwards in separate meetings, sometimes they are made in Milan or Paris during subsequent shows.
Hope that helps!
I admit that a trip to Pitt (to two) is on my bucket list, but as effectively a tourist / consumer / enthusiast , admittedly with a very keen interest in menswear and a little knowledge of the business, I thought that passes to the show were restricted to buyers and press? Or are some passed available to others? Or do the tourist element meet brands outside the show itself?
I would be interested to know (so I can start planning!)
Thanks.
It’s a lot easier to get a pass that it used to be. Most people with Instagram accounts can get a pass
Thanks.
What are your thoughts on this growing phenomenon of brands having their own e-commerce shop and in essence competing with the stores they sell to? Did you hear of much pushback from the stores at Pitti when discussing their order for new inventory? How can stores compete under these circumstances where often the brand can sell for less on sale and offer a much wider selection.
Brands having their own e-commerce as well as shops/department stores is fine and has happened for a long time
Manufacturers having e-commerce without much of a real brand is a bit different, and really risks relationships with people they make for. The key here has been to not spend too much marketing or branding it, and not undercutting on price. Manufacturers that do that have found it works ok
I’m interested and pleased to hear that you’re dabbling in Orazio Luciano – a brand I’ve actually tried myself for a change, albeit in RTW. (I’m an easy fit, though.)
They aren’t as good as Attolini (in fit, finish, feel or fabrics) but still fantastic. I look forward to seeing your review.
Can you tell us what sort of cloth you chose?
Pink corduroy. I know… but I’ve seen it made up and it’s really lovely. A dusty, soft pink
Morning all,
I am considering purchasing one of the Alfredo Rifugio leather jackets. I am curious if anyone has had experience with their product? I wear a size medium in the United States and typically wear a sweater and shirt under my leather jacket in the autumnal season. I’d really appreciate any insight someone could offer on sizing advice. I’m reaching out to The Rake as well since they are a stockist.
Michael
Hi Simon,
it was nice meeting you in person in Pitti, even if it was just for a short discussion.
Thanks also for your quick advice at Drake’s!
As a shirtmaker and a long time buyer, I love Pitti for giving us the chance to meet interesting people and fellow artisans.
Nice to see you too Christos
Simon,
Apologies for the belated comment, but what make and model is the hat in the first picture? Many thanks.
No problem at all Max. It’s from Anderson & Sheppard
Simon, I saw that you are into sports, cycling in particular. Again I came across an article with your photos with a bike)
I myself ride through the forest on the GT Avalanche, I love swimming and table tennis.
Could you make a separate article about your sports, physical activity, gymnastics, healthy lifestyle. I think it will be of interest to readers.
Sure, happy to, though I’d want to find some way to link it to clothing probably. I’ll see.
Just discovered this amazing site. V well written articles and insights. Enjoyed it thoroughly.
BTW, what is your take on De Bonn Facture?
Thanks. De Bonne Facture are lovely – not always my kind of style, but they make great pieces