A guide to linen bunches
This is the second in our series presenting all the cloth bunches currently available for bespoke, summarising what they contain and picking out our favourites.
The summaries should help determine which bunches readers need to see, or request. And the favourites selection should hopefully help with some final decisions.
The first of these was a guide to the current seasonal Spring/Summer bunches, largely from the Italian mills.
The second, below, looks at all the bunches available for pure linen.
There are at least 15 bunches from various mills and merchants offering linen. But they can be categorised fairly easily.
The first and most important distinction is between the heavier, largely Irish linens and the lighter, largely Italian ones. Almost all the Irish linens range from around 10oz to 13oz, while the Italians go from 7oz to 10oz (usually expressed by them in grams - 200g to 280g).
The advantages and disadvantages of both types were discussed in this separate post on linen, part of our Guide to Cloth series.
That series gives advice on what types of cloth to use, what colours, weights and styles, and how to browse them. This series purely assesses the range currently available.
Irish linens
The heavier Irish linens are carried in the following bunches, all English:
- W Bill, Fine Irish Linens and Pure Cottons
- Harrison’s, Mersolair
- Dugdale Bros, Lisburn
- Dugdale Bros, Crommelin
- Dugdale Bros, Natural Elements
- Huddersfield Fine Worsteds, Cotton & Linen
- Holland & Sherry, South Pacific Linens
Classic plain weave
The majority of these are 10-13oz, in a plain weave, and with an obvious starch (which often comes out after cleaning). This is the classic Irish linen, as seen on my tobacco suit from Dege & Skinner above.
Those linens don’t vary much between the bunches, and have a lot of overlap in colours.
However, Holland & Sherry has the biggest range of colours among the merchants (as it often does) with 32 compared to 9 to 13 in other bunches. So if you’re after an unusual colour, look for the South Pacific Linens bunch.
Perhaps nicest among the bright colours is 204012, below, while 204022 is a subtle shade of olive.
![](https://www.permanentstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Holland-Sherry-linen-204012_800x800-e1528708085596-580x328.jpg)
![](https://www.permanentstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Holland-Sherry-linen-204022_800x800-e1528708109226-580x322.jpg)
If you can find them, the bunches from the couple of Irish mills that supply the various merchants actually have the largest range of colours - Ulster Weavers for example. But they tend to be all plain weaves, in these heavier weights.
Twills and herringbones
The next sub-category is weave. While the majority of the Irish pure linens are plain weave, some bunches carry a few herringbones and twills.
Herringbone can be nice if you want a little pattern to your linen. Three bunches carry herringbones, but Lisburn has the biggest range of colours, with 19 (the others have 4-8).
It’s also worth highlighting that South Pacific Linens has narrower herringbones than the others, such as the navy 204204, below.
![](https://www.permanentstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Holland-Sherry-linen-204204_800x800-e1528708128219-580x335.jpg)
Twill is denser than a plain weave, and therefore usually won’t breathe as well, but holds its shape better. Good for a sharper pair of trousers, perhaps.
Mersolair is the only bunch with twills - 3 in 10.5oz, 3 in a heavy 17.6oz. Below is the biscuit-coloured 28146. There are also some softer plain colours in the bunch that are a little over 12oz, but unstarched and a slightly more open weave than most of the traditional Irish options.
![](https://www.permanentstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/28146-linen-from-mersolair-bunch-580x387.jpg)
Patterns
The final way these English merchants vary is with patterns, and there are a few unusual ones tucked into the various bunches, often with only one or two options.
Dugdale’s are the best here. Lisburn has some interesting patterns, with differently coloured warp and weft, and some looser, more open-weave variants. Crommelin is the king for patterns though, with windowpane checks, gun-club checks and others - such as windowpane 7207 below.
![](https://www.permanentstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/7207-580x354.jpg)
Crommelin also has some stripes, as does South Pacific Linens. The other good bunch for patterns is Mersolair though, which has some glen checks, nailheads, fibre mixes (mohair/linen and cotton/linen) and even two Madras checks.
The nicest of those is the madras 28105 and glen check 28104.
![](https://www.permanentstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/madras-28105-mersolair-bunch-580x387.jpg)
![](https://www.permanentstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/glen-check-28104-mersolair-bunch-580x387.jpg)
Italian/European linens
There is generally less variation among the Italian and European pure linens than the heavy Irish ones. Although there is the occasional 200g (7oz), the vast majority are 250g-280g, which is not a difference you’re likely to notice.
These bunches also all carry some normal linens and some washed ones - a ‘delavé’ effect. Whether you like this look is a matter of taste, but personally I would only use it in the most casual, unstructured jackets (not trousers).
The bunches here are:
- Scabal, Pure Linen
- Caccioppoli, Cotton & Linen
- Lanificio Ermenegildo Zegna, Cotton & Linen Summer
- Solbiati, Nobel
- Solbiati, Tolomeo
- Solbiati, Quarantalino
The distinctive thing about Pure Linen is that it carries a few very light linens (7oz) and that the non-delavé ones are Irish, but lightweight.
I’d stress, however, that the biggest difference between the Irish and Italian linens in general is their weight, and you’re unlikely to notice much difference between the two in the same weight.
Cotton & Linen from Caccioppoli has the usual split of normal and delavé, and most of these colours overlap with the others too.
The only difference is five slightly heavier, slightly rougher linens (350g, 12.5oz) that might be likened to a linen canvas. Nice for more casual trousers perhaps. We like 380502, below.
![](https://www.permanentstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/380502_o-580x363.jpg)
Zegna’s bunches are quite seasonal, and we covered in the Italian seasonal bunches feature.
Solbiati, now part of the Loro Piana group, has by far the biggest range of linens from the Italians. They divide their plain and delavé linens into two different bunches - Quarantalino and Tolomeo respectively.
The offering in these two bunches is similar to the other Italians, except for the volume: 30+ of each type, as opposed to a dozen from the others. So if you want the full spectrum of options, or something more unusual, worth seeking out these two.
S04012 is a nice delavé option, or the indigo-like S04027 (below)
![](https://www.permanentstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/S04027-580x336.jpg)
![](https://www.permanentstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/S04012-580x318.jpg)
Nobel we covered in our seasonal piece and therefore won’t be available for as long as the other two bunches. But this is where all the variants are - stripes, checks, twills, herringbones etc. Find it only if you want pattern - eg S09021 below.
![](https://www.permanentstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/S09021-580x382.jpg)
I hope you find this a useful guide to all the linen options out there. The plan is to revise it every time enough bunches have been changed, so it remains a contemporary guide.
If you have any suggestions on things you’d like to see in this series, please let us know.
(I say ‘us’, by the way, because James Girdwood did much of the legwork for this piece, and deserves a lot of the credit.)
Note: In general, English mills quote weights per square metre, while Europeans quote per metre of cloth. This means that the Europeans are even lighter than indicated. We have kept the weights quoted on the bunches, however, to avoid confusion.
Hi Simon,
I have exactly Caccioppoli 380502 and 501 (the off white one). They are quiet heavy. I’ve made 2 casual trousers for “weekend relax”. Very nice fabric. At the beginning I ordered them online thinking they were tighter/stronger, close to an irish linen, but when they arrived I immediately realized that you can’t do anything with them apart from very casual trousers. Probably even a SC will result too spongy.
Dear A., may i ask you where did you order the cloth from? Thanks!
Dear A., may I ask you where did you order Caccioppoli linen from? thanks!
Dear A., may I ask where did you order Caccioppoli fabric from? Thanks!
Actually I called Caccioppoli and my grandfather went to collect them (back in early March).
Thanks! So there’s no chance of getting in online. My apologies for asking the same question three times. It’s obviously a mistake.
Dear Simon,
May I ask your take on Baird McNutt’s linen bunches? Thanks.
I haven’t tried them I’m afraid
Really useful piece, Simon.
btw, what do you think about canapa as alternative to linen? I know some italian mills produce cloth from this material but I don’t know about its performance. I’ve seen some jackets made of it by the neapolitans, I’d like to try but don’t know about a reliable source.
I also would like to order a jacket reproducing the famous jacket with action back that Vincenzo Attolini made for Rubinacci back in the ’30, do you happen to know which material it is made of?
Thanks in advance!
Néstor
I can’t help on either count I’m afraid Nestor. Maybe another reader can
I’ve tried to Canapa jackets – one a pure canapa and one a cotton blend. The cotton blend was excellent; enough cotton to have some ‘stand’ but I think the canapa helped a lot in allowing the jacket to breathe. The pure canapa was lovely, quite similar to linen but a bit softer to the touch. I also found the wrinkles less distinctive, softer and not as pronounced. In general, it is very similar to linen though. In future, I’d probably still choose linen — there just aren’t enough canapa options out there to make it a viable option to really fill the wardrobe with.
Very useful, thanks Paddy
Canapa is hemp. Let’s not start new fads for foreign words.
I too have a canapa/hemp jacket, in blue herringbone. My experience is like Paddy’s above. Have not found any in current cut-length offerings, so I’m going with linens for the future.
Néstor are you referring to the white DB one? It is in silk. Take a look to the Dupioni by H&S bunch.
Simon
Thanks for an interesting article.
One thought on timing. Please think about seasons, lead times etc. It would be better to publish eg linen in January to give your readers time to choose and have garments made up ready for the warm weather. Equally, articles on tweeds in April will set things up nicely for delivery at the beginning of autumn.
Thanks.
We are slightly tied by the mills, some of whom publish Spring/Summer books in November, some in March, and then it takes a little time to put together. But we had aimed to do this about a month ago.
We also did the Spring/Summer seasonal bunches post first, because those are only available this Spring/Summer, whereas this linen bunches piece will be good for a year or two at least
Hi Simon,
Need help I am 21 about to enter the professional world. Due to this I want to commison my first MTM suit, single breasted in navy. Any guidance on the weight of fabric? Since it’s my first proper suit, I want to it to be versatile over the whole year and not season specific.
Thank you in advance.
Hi Nicholas,
Aim for around 11oz. Also worth having a read of this guide to suit materials.
I actually commissioned something from the H&S South Pacific linens, and not seeing “Origin” info on their website, e-mailed the company, and was told it is from Chile, not Ireland!
H&S weave a lot of things in Chile these days. Bear in mind the linen itself might still be grown and spun here
Hi Simon,
Thanks for the post, very informative.
But I miss the London Lounge linen books.
You are lamenting heavyweight linen, I don’t think you can get a better heavyweight linen than from the London Lounge.
Cheers,
Thanks Max. Why, how was it different?
All LL cloths are made to Michael’s own specification, using mills and merchants he has developed close co-operation with over the years the Club has been running. His objective is always to create the “best” available cloth in its category; thus, his Brisa walks tall over any other fresco for example. A lot comes from Lovat, some from Fox. Simon try and get your hands on the LL linen book. It’s wonderful stuff.
Thank you Michael, and I will. However, that description would apply to the creative head of almost any mill or merchant. More useful perhaps to describe those cloth and style choices. Eg the LL cloths were great at bringing back heavier woollen suitings that most mills wouldn’t consider commercial enough.
Hi Simon,
That maybe true.
But Michael has a lot of expertise in designing cloth.
He designs old world cloth that is indeed heavy but doesn’t wear out after some years of heavy wear. Plus the way the cloth is woven guarantees that it is breathable, so it wears cooler considering it’s weight (just like old-stock heavy cloth).
The experience can’t be put in words. Just oder yourself a suit and see for yourself.
Thanks Max, that’s useful on the weave, and I’ve seen enough of it (and talked to those that weave it) to know how good it is.
I suggest that it’s good to have some factual points that help understand the differences between the cloths. And that’s not hard to do – weight, set, weave, yarn – there aren’t that many variables. Just saying cloth is exceptional isn’t that helpful, particularly given most mills use just that kind of hyperbole to describe their own offerings!
Dear Max , what’s the weight of London Lounge Linen ? Thanks
Dear Simon,
Another very interesting post! In relation to your tobacco suit from Dege & Skinner (very beautiful); May I please inquire the cloth number from W Bill? – I looked at previous posts relating to the commission but could not find the no. Cheers!
Hi Simon,
I would like to share some my experience here. Dugdale Lisburn is a great linen book, it has the plain(12oz) and herringbones (10oz), I have two pants made in herringbones one which I think more suitable for sub tropical weather. it is lighter in weight but meanwhile it still holds the shape well not crazily wrinkle.
Comparing W Bill and Huddersfield, I think they are quite similar in weight and body, however, W Bill is a bit smoother and more comfortable to wear.
Thank you
Hi Simon,
What’s your opinion on Portofino wool linen silk blend? I’ve recently commissioned a jacket with the 320792. I love the colour very much.
It’s nice – similar to the Italian bunches (and all from Italy). In general I find more patterns and colours I like in those Italian bunches though
Can you order direct from Ulster Weavers or is the only way to get access to them through a tailor or shirtmaker? Thanks
Salut Simon!
Lin is a good cloth for the warm weather but the colour is of course important.
At Paris the more subtile colours of dark blues, olives and so are better in estivale, but to the cote, azur, provence and so the more bright is better.
In these, rose, lavender and so make a good palette. and also in Sicile and others, like Amalfi, they are more full of the sunshine.
Cordialement
Merci beaucoup
Thank you Simon. It seems Solbiati also sells heavyweight linen in the 350g range. Do you know how it compares to Irish linens?
No, sorry
Thanks Paddy and A. for the answers regarding the canapa (hemp in English) and the Attolini jacket.
Indeed there are no bunches with pure hemp cloth to be purchased from the usual merchants. Delfino has some blends but I’m looking for pure hemp in natural colour. I’ll have to ask the tailor!
Regarding the Attolini jacket, I meant the SB one with action back. It looks that is made of linen, but I’d like to confirm. The DB is amazing as well but too flamboyant for me. If ordering something made of pure silk, it would be a jacket like the brown dupioni silk Goerge Wang from Brio has been wearing during Pitti. If I’m not mistaken, the H&S bunch includes two weights, a very plain lightweight unlikely to be made as a jacket and another one which seems to be hopsack.
Very informative, thanks Simon. Could you perhaps offer some thoughts (even if highly subjective) in what you would make up with the different bunches, and how you might wear them?
Hi Alfred,
That sounds like it would be useful, but either very long or very partial. I guess my other pieces I’ve actually had made in linen would be a good guide there?
Or in future I could at least mention whether the cloths I highlight would be nicer (for me) as suits, jackets or trousers?
I would like to know the fabric in the first picture with your tobacco linen suit? It looks great?!
It’s W Bill, 11oz linen. The precise shade might have changed so worth looking up the bunch
Great piece! Love the W Bill bunch. Would love to see something similar for – flannels and autumn winter styles.
Another one I would highly appriciate would be suggestions for cloth bunches and colors for building a timeless wardrobe (the basics) ie. the recommended bunches for that 4season navy blazer etc.
Nice idea Max. The first one is coming, and I’ll give some thought to the second…
Hi Simon,
Have you tried something from BatemanOgden’s linen bunch yet?
I would like to hear your thoughts about it. Thanks!
No, and to be honest I’m not sure I will this summer…. Sorry
Hi Simon,
How would you go about ordering Solbiati Linen for sewing my own garments? Their website is basically worthless… just a brief description of the history and there is no link to a contact. Would I go through someone such as Caccioppoli Napoli to order by the meter? Thanks so much.
They don’t sell to end customers I’m afraid Lujac – most mills don’t. This is really for people picking from bunches at their tailors – or requesting through their tailor
Hi Simon,
Excellent article. I want to get a summer suit made up that I can wear on the weekends, but also will be passable around the office. I was thinking the best option would be something like the W Bill suit you had made by Dege & Skinner. I want something that does wrinkle too much so heavy linen seem like the go to option. Do you think this would work? Or would you suggest something like a wool/linen/silk blend? My tailor suggested Irish linen would wear too hot for a summer suit, but I would not have though it would be much issue in a dry Aussie summer since the open weave should help right?
Also I will need to get my cloth ordered online as my tailor doesn’t stock many samples. Is there much difference in price/finish between W Bill and Dugdale’s offerings?
Hey.
Linen would be great, just be careful on the colour to get something that is appropriate in the office. My Dege is lovely but wouldn’t suit all offices.
Heavy linen would look and fall nicest, but would be hot in a hot Aussie summer. If you think that’s going to be an issue, then go for lighter-weight Italian linens.
No, difference between the Bill and Dugdale
Hi Simon,
Can I inquire on your thoughts on Harrison’s, Mersolair? They seem to wrinkle very easily (100% linen), so wanted to get your thoughts on getting made as trousers.
If it’s the heavier (11oz+) linen, as I think it is, it will wrinkle less than most and would be fine for trousers
Hi Simon,
Are there any comparable linen fabrics that are densely woven and heavy like W Bill linen? Looking to make odd linen trousers and have seen great examples of W Bill trousers exhibiting nice drape & a strong crease. I looked at Harrison’s Mersolair and the Dugsdale Bros linen collections, but am wondering how they perform against W Bill.
They’re all pretty much the same Bernie – read the beginning of this post again. Pretty much all those linen twills come from the same sources, so it’s just a question of colour choice
Upon closer reading, yes I see now. Thanks for your explanation.
Hi Simon,
How do you go about buying Loro Piana fabrics if you are starting your own small line clothing?
Even though they now own Solbiati and experts in wool, wow would you rate their linen and cottons ?
Thank you so kindly.
Many Thanks!
The quality is very good. However, if you want to buy cloth I’m afraid you need an account with them, which they won’t give to everyone – thats for cut lengths for bespoke. And for RTW clothing, they’ll have minimums for orders probably but you should be able to order from them directly
This is a great and timely post on linen bunches, and a great help to me and others!!!
Would be great to expand, as your time permits, on the many and varied bunch comparisons possible on say silk bunches, cotton bunches, escoriel bunches, trouser bunches, and well as say mid-weight travel suit bunches, winter suit bunches, fresco, mock -lino, ( how and where can this be used?) I received sample swatches of Finmeresco from Harrisons!! Would their 4-ply 13oz frescos make a great all-seasons jacket/ blazer fabric? It is pretty open weave, but a durable and heavier mid-weight fabric.
The list goes on …and on.
Super post .
Lindsay McKee
Thanks Lindsay. They’re a lot of work, but we are working on more. In fact, on Monday you’ll see something on high-twists that will hopefully help with your last questions…
Dear Simon ,
I am searching for heavy linen bunches . I have used in the past linen from Huddersfield Fine Worsteds of 350 g (i think per linear meter) , but the color’s options are limited . By my research now W Bill linen are 380 g per linear meter and 4-5 times more expensive , Ulster Weavers at 255 gr per square meter and J.Hanna Glenariff at 270 gr per square meter . As i could notice most merchants quote their weights per linear meters instead of square meters. As i understand 255 gr per square meter are about 370 gr per linear meter and 270 gr per square meter are about 390 gr per linear meter ? Any other suggestions for heavy linen bunches ? Thanks.
They’re all coming from the same Irish weavers, but have you looked at all the other bunches listed in this piece? Holland & Sherry, Dugdale etc?
Hello, what color Irish linen suiting would you say is most versatile out of brown, french blue, or dark or light green? I know it’s difficult without pics but any help would be appreciated. Thank you
Brown or dark green. The darker the better, and either will be pretty versatile
Even if it’s 4 years old, very helpful, this and the “Guide to Cloth” I mean. Thank you, Simon & James, especially for mentioning Dugdale. On their website I saw linen cloth with beautiful colors and patterns, it gives me ideas…
And they sell to individual people, not just businesses. I’m going to order swatches.
Hi Simon,
If I were to make a cream (or beige, ivory, oatmeal) Irish linen suit that could be split into a odd jacket and a odd trouser at the same time, would that work?
( Based on these two articles:
https://www.permanentstyle.com/2020/06/how-to-wear-a-cream-jacket.html
https://www.permanentstyle.com/2022/03/if-you-only-had-five-smart-trousers.html)
In addition, would it be better if a chevron was used?
Big Thanks
Yes, that could certainly work. By a chevron, you mean a herringbone weave? If so then yes also, though bear in mind herringbones are often a little softer in linens
Hi Simon,
If I were to make a cream (or beige, ivory, oatmeal) Irish linen suit that could be split into a odd jacket and a odd trouser at the same time, would that work?
( Based on these two articles:
https://www.permanentstyle.com/2020/06/how-to-wear-a-cream-jacket.html
https://www.permanentstyle.com/2022/03/if-you-only-had-five-smart-trousers.html)
In addition, would it be better if a herringbone was used?
Big Thanks
Aha! It was herringbone, ok great
Simon Thank for your reply.
But usually twill is stiffer and drapes more than plain, right?
So what does it mean that herringbone will be softer?
Thanks
True. Herringbone breaks that up a little obviously, but otherwise I’m not sure what the reason is. It may just often be woven a little more loosely
Does this mean that if linen herringbone is used to make trousers, the stiffness and trouser line maintenance are not as good as linen plain weave?
Often yes, but again I’d emphasise this is based on personal experience rather than specific knowledge – a risk to be aware of rather than a conclusive reason to avoid it
Simon, Anglo-Italian and The Anthology others are offering a ‘twisted linen’ at the moment. What is this, and is it possible to buy the fabric anywhere? Thank you.
I don’t know I’m afraid MD, I haven’t seen it
hi simon I have been debating whether to get an olive or black linen popover as my next casual piece. I envision it with button down collar (but worn unfastened to make it more louche), short in the body length and with long sleeves. Will look nice with the cuff pushed back and severely unbuttoned in the placket, worn with shorts in the summer.
I think olive seems the more logical choice but a part of me feels the whole colour palette can get too brown/earthy, especially when worn with khaki shorts (my most worn pants). Am i overthninking it or?
Sounds nice Shem. I guess it depends what most often you wear on the lower half – if khaki and similar colours, then yes black might be best.
Hi Simon,
Do you have experience/an opinion with the Dugdale Natural Elements bunch you mention in this? It feels like a bit of an unusual one, as it is Irish, but only 280g, so an Irish linen that’s closer to a conventional Italian weight. Is this something you would stay away from considering the weight?
I don’t Jonny, but it’s a good point. I would worry a bit about the weight, but you’d hope it would be a denser weave if it was Irish, and perhaps with less of a finish.
I’ll try and look at it next time I’m with a set of bunches. If you end up using it let me know how it turns out as well
I actually have used it, but only for trousers (shade 7310, which is a useful neutral), and they came in at the very end of last summer, so only managed to get a couple of wears out of it before the weather turned. They definitely seemed like they performed beyond their weight and held a crease fairly well. I was considering going for a full suit, but figured I’d try and get another opinion before that level of investment.
I see, thanks Jonny, sounds like it would be a good choice then
Hi simon i currently have 2 sportscoats – a navy hopsack db by anthology and a dark brown wool check sb by ring jacket. Im thinking of adding a third jacket from the anthology in db in dark brown done in art du lin linen or something in cotton. Im looking for something casual. What factors shld i consider between both apart from seasonality?
Well, a DB is a bit more unsual, so I’d consider how you feel about your other DB and how that could translate into a less formal material. It would be a bit more of a look than an SB
I
m on the lookout for a linen fabric for a casual suit and am leaning towards the heavier irish linens. However I
m not especially keen on the idea of wearing a starched material that needs washing to get rid of the starch. Is it possible/advicable to ask the tailor to wash the fabric before cutting/making the garnment? And is this wash done with water or solvents (aka “dry” cleaning)? I also wonder whether the washing of a “standard” irish linen would result in a delavé effect similar to the effect seen on the “already washed” italian linens?– Tailors can wash linen beforehand, and often do
– It would be in water, not solvents
– It wouldn’t get rid of all of the starch however, just most of it
– No, it wouldn’t be anything like a delave Italian one, as that’s an industrial wash
Many thanks – very useful to know!
Dear Simon, if I may ask, what is your general opinion on 50/50 wool-linen mixes such as this one for example: https://bergbergstore.com/products/don-sport-herringbone-jacket-dark-chocolate
I have only seen you in 100% linen suits, and I am interested in a dark brown linen suit for years, but I am not sure about the mix with wool. It is obviously more formal than 100% linen and I guess you lose a lot of the look and the general appeal of pure linen.
We discussed it more in this piece on wool/silk/linen, Alexander. I haven’t had something myself in that mix, but I can see how it would have advantages – more like a cooler version of a work jacket/suit probably
Hi Simon!
Similar question as with the high twist thread 😅. I’m not sure if a 12-13 oz linen would be appropriate in very hot/humid Indian weather. I can usually get away with a 10oz mock leno but I’m not sure how that would compare with those beautiful Irish linens? I’d get a 9-10oz linen (darker color) but I’m not sure if they’re appropriate for suiting? I don’t mind wrinkles as it’d be a casual suit but I also don’t want it to look terrible. Thank you again for all the work in educating us on better clothing choices!
They’re all going to wrinkle, so if it’s a suit I wouldn’t worry about going lighter, like 9-10oz. If it was just trousers I’d perhaps risk it and go with Irish, to see how that feels. Bear in mind that coolness is a lot about fit and air circulation too (see post here)